What is Amrit Vela ??

Gur fateh Jagjinder ji....

I like ur funda of Sound proof room,there is a very deep thought in this pankti.

As u have stated a quote :

"Amrit Vela Sach Nao, Vadiyayi Vichaar" i.e. Oh sama jis vele asi Rabji de Guna di vichaar karde haan te uhna ten turan di koshish karde haan ji, that is amrit vela...Bhaven oh din da koi vi vakht hove.

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Edited by jujhar

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh Dear Tejbir ji Awakening from Death means waking up from the dark sleep of Kalyug that has led us to sleep in the dreams of Maya, nothing else. If we wake from that state, we will meet our true Lord. So that vela is nothing but awakening from the Hands of Death of Kalyug. If we die in Kalyug's hands, we can never be awakened. Stress on "Awaken" word. It will clarify automatically. If we think on Death, what is Death? Do we know? Is it just transfer of a Spirit from one body to other? Or is it something else too? Or do we really die? Or do we confuse Sleep with Death? Just think on it, and then reply. Guru Ang Sang!!

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh

 

According to me, Amrit Wela means The early age of our life. The early we pick up and take up "real thing" (not reading the gurbani or doing sewa in the gurudwara) the more easy it will be for us to find him. It is like teaching a child from the begining, the older hs goes and little grasp power he will have.

Therefore the meanings for of the followin lines would be :

"Amrit Vela Sach Naao, Vadeyaee, Veechar||

Karmi Aave Kapda, Nadri mokh duaar||",

Now reading this way

"Amrit vela sach, Naao Vadayee, Vichaar Karmi, Aave Kapda Nadri, Mokh Duaar!!"

means

The early you get up (at a younge age) and start thinking about creater (and start doing good things), you will not do anything bad (you will be see how & what you are doing) you will be able to see the Creater (who will cover you with your warmth & love) and soon you will be able to see him in your heart (mokh duar is inside your heart). Believe me you can only see him when your heart in open.

the problem I see we all reading gurbani the way it is been read from many years. In old days, we used to have SGGS in written in one line without any breaks. But when the bani was re formatted (i dont know by whom, to made it easy for ready) we lost the meanings. Most of the time we are reading it wrong therefore our meanings are also wrong, we dont know where to put commas and where to take a pause. The bani is far easy than we think (its tough).

Wish I could write more right now.

Guru rakha!

 

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh This technique of reading Baani slowly is really effective and really opens the eyes when we see different meaning as we used to think about that Gurbaani Tukk. You have a great thinking Dimple Veer, and really thinking very deeply, but veerji the reading style with embedded commas "Amrit vela sach, Naao Vadayee, Vichaar Karmi, Aave Kapda Nadri, Mokh Duaar!!" doesn't really matches the concept of what you have said. The commas should be placed as were done initially. Though I really liked your concept of rising from childhood. Actually commas really put great changes in reading the Gurbaani, as for example in Japji Saheb, or Rehraas Sahib, we encounter the following tukk "Soyi Soyi Sada Sach Sahib Sacha Sachi Nayi||" This is without comma, as given in Sri Guru Granth Sahib. What we have seen and heard is "Soyi Soyi Sada Sach Sahib, Sacha Sachi Nayi||", can we interpret anything? Probably not. Now check this "Soyi Soyi Sada Sach, Sahib Sacha Sachi Nayi||", I think no need for explanation. Now again coming to the discussion, why is Prakash done so early in Gurudwaras, prakash is done at Amrit Vela. Same, amrit vela is the early morning. Still the concept is unclear Veerjio!!! I have read somewhere that the time is passing at its pace, and we are losing it by sleeping at Amrit Vela. So, we need to hurry cooming at the conclusion.

Veer Jagjinder jee and all the member what I think is that this verse "Amrit Vela Sach Naao, Vadeyaee, Veechar||Karmi Aave Kapda, Nadri mokh duaar||" can be understood if we understand the meaning of AMRIT which is combination(sandi ched) of two words A + MRIT(AMRIT) which literally means opposite of MRIT(Death) but this MRIT(Death) is ATMIK DEATH so the meaning would be “oh sama/time jadon main(me) ATMIK MAOUT/Death nahin Marda jadon main Sach wich judya hunda han jadon main 1 Rab jee de Guna de vichar kardan han and una guna nu apnanda han” otherwise how can a person who does night duties can enjoy AMRIT VELA veer we know that Gurbani is UNIVERSAL guru jee says “khuthree braahumun soodh vais oupudhaes chuhu vurunaa ko saajhaa The four castes - the Kh'shaatriyas, Brahmins, Soodras and Vaishyas - are equal in respect to the teachings.P-747 SGGS”  Also when Guru jee talks about VELA/Time at one place he says “jae vaelaa vukhuth veechaareeai thaa kith vaelaa bhugath hoe If we Consider the time and the moment-when should we worship the Lord?anadhin naamae rathiaa suchae suchee soe Night and day, one who is attuned to the Name of the True Lord is true.eik thil piaaraa visurai bhugath kinaehee hoe If someone forgets the Beloved Lord, even for an instant, what sort of devotion is that?mun thun seethul saach sio saas n biruthaa koe One whose mind and body are cooled and soothed by the True Lord-no breath of his is wasted. ||1||P-35 SGGS”

 

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Amrit Vela - a concept that is so confused - yet so easy.

Here is a technique, that i used to understand the concept of Amrit Vela.

First, take everything you have already heard about Amrit Vela, put it in a
box, and lock this box. Keep it aside for a moment.

Next, Vichar the word "Amrit" and understand as "A-Not and Mrit-Death".
Furthermore, understand this death to be Aatmik Death. Now Aatmik
Death, is dying subconciously from the life of a human. Some may ask
how this exactly happens?
Well lets discuss an example.
You are at the office, at 10am, normal routine. You have four employees
that work for you and as usual each employee comes in the morning to
report on the previous days work. Well, the first three employees come
and everything is fine. Then the fourth employee comes. Unfortunately
the fourth employee did not meet is deadlines. This makes you upset
and you, as your habit is, decide to yell aggresively and violently at
the fourth employee.
THATS IT!!! YOUR DEAD!!! SUBCONCIOUSLY YOU
HAVE LEFT THE LIFE OF A HUMAN AND YOUR BEHAVIOR OF BARKING AT
YOUR EMPLOYEE LOUDLY IS LIKE THAT OF A DOG!!! AATMICALLY, YOU
ARE DEAD, YOUR ARE LIVING THE LIFE OF A DOG AND INFACT THIS IS THE
DEATH/REINCARNATION GURU JI EXPLAINS IN THE GURU GRANTH SAHIB
JI!!!!!

Now back to Amrit Vela - We have understood what the Aatmik Death is -
Now we are discussing that TIME, that Vela, that instance - Where you are
not dead subconciously. When is that time? It is when you are behaving
like a human and when your actions are not like that of animals, are you
considered ilving. That is being A-Mrit - Not Dead.

Guru Ji is telling us that- to not be DEAD, and to be ALIVE, is AMRIT VELA.
This happens when your character and behavior encompasses those
qualities of the One Almighty. For example, Raab Ji is Mith Bolara Ji, you
must embody that characteristic.

Amrit Vela is when we are "Har Jan Aaasa Chaiyaa, Jaasa Har Hi Hoyaa"
When we are like that Raab Ji (Ik Oonkaar, Satnaam,...etc.)

Now, if you like, open up that box which you locked in the beginning, and
see which idealogy and reasoning you think is correct.

It is necessary, when understanding concepts such as Death, Amrit Vela,
Naam, Simran, etc... to abandon all preconcieved notions. Read
everyone's point of view with an open slate. Then make your decision.

Forget the idea of Amrit Vela being classified as a specific time!!

Hope this helps, and i would love to read responses so i can improve and
refine my views.

FATEH TO ALL

Jaspreetji, i was the idea that reincarnation and rebirth is the same, we die but our soul lives further and find a new life in another living form. Like Satjotji told is that we have a rebirth in our living life, like if we treat people in a harsh and rude way, our rebirth is like a dog and not a human being. I understood to have a rebirth you don't need to die but change your attitude towards people. Please correct me if i understood you wrong...

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh As already discussed between us, since we can't interpret the exact meaning of Gurbaani, yet if we try to learn it by taking simple examples as in our life, we can achieve AMRIT Vela. But the main discussion is how do we attain this while we are living our daily lives, how do we do when we have our family to be taken care of. I guess we should put more stress on the solution which is practical rather than discussing those things which feel little hard to understand. As per nature, everything is so simplified that we don't have to do anything to attain some basic things, like breathing air, our body does it automatically, so we should find some way in which our body reacts very naturally to the discussion that we are doing!!

Yessss...as rightly said by jujhar this amrit state can be only be achieved by doing such deeds those give us aatmik undying state...and such deeds are none other than the deeds those are morally and ethically correct...the ones to which our conscience agrees..the real good deeds in the true light of knowledge.

Humbly

My dear menu es vele ik tuk yaad aa rahi hai ji:

Guru ji kehnde han:

"Je vela waqt vichariye, Kit vele bhagat hoye..."

I'll forward ur query to other LT members also for more answers...

Let me also study before i reply ur answer ji...

Regards